Skip to document

Plato vs Machiavelli

This essay is about how each philosopher had different views on who sh...
Course

The History of Western Political Thought (POL SCI 005)

3 Documents
Students shared 3 documents in this course
Academic year: 2022/2023
Uploaded by:
Anonymous Student
This document has been uploaded by a student, just like you, who decided to remain anonymous.
Los Angeles Pierce College

Comments

Please sign in or register to post comments.

Preview text

Tsaturyan 1

Political Science 005 19 October 2022

Plato vs Machiavelli

The achievements of Plato and Machiavelli have had a profound influence on contemporary administration. They all had different viewpoints and theories about who should run the country, and this has influenced modern political ideologies and government operations. Despite their divergent views on a wide range of topics, Machiavelli and Plato agreed on one thing: the government and the people needed a supreme leader. The main questions of civilization—who should rule, how one should rule, and what should the purpose of the state be—have always sparked conflict and murder. One of these thinkers thought that people might share political power, and American pluralism is a result of this belief. Examining each of their concepts, we find that Machiavelli's views are similar to those of Americans. Plato's beliefs are a reflection of his own life and the fact that only adult male citizens were permitted to participate in politics in his day. Plato's political views were significantly affected by two significant events. As an illustration, "The affluent aristocracy retained control of the land and the government, and, over time, poorer property owners became slaves (or almost so) through debt to the more wealthy" (Boyd). Plato thought it wasn't fair, despite coming from a wealthy family. He started to promote the return of democracy, although it resembled a struggle between citizens and their social class. Plato's beliefs are a reflection of his own life and the fact that only adult male citizens were permitted to participate in politics in his day. Plato's political views were significantly affected by two significant events. As an illustration, "The affluent aristocracy retained control of the land and the government, and, over time, poorer property owners became slaves (or almost so) through debt to the more wealthy" (Boyd). Plato thought it wasn't fair, despite coming from a wealthy family. He started to promote the return of democracy, although it resembled a struggle between citizens and their social class. According to Plato, a philosopher king should be in charge of the populace. A wise person or someone who loves wisdom is a philosopher king. For instance, "They would act morally and not out of self-interest since they would recognize that the greatest self-benefit is living virtuously" (Zaykova). This indicates that selecting thinkers to be kings is considered a wise rule. Contrarily, Plato's ideals were more focused on maintaining the status quo, which does not align with American Pluralism. For instance, "Pluralism is the belief that the United States is governed by a variety of factions rather than the people as a whole. These groups, which include environmentalists, trade and professional organizations, and unions among others... (Pluralism). Pluralism describes the way different groups coexist and dominate in the US; no one group has complete power. Since Plato believed that only one philosopher king should rule in order to make wise decisions, it does not accurately reflect his ideals. According to Plato's philosophy, moral leaders are necessary to create a good government. Machiavelli's beliefs were harsher and more direct than those of Plato, which were more idealistic. Machiavelli lived in Florence in the 1400s, a time when the city was under Spanish rule. Both Machiavelli and Plato believed that a ruler should hold political authority, however Machiavelli's perspective was different from Plato's. He advocated for a prince to be in charge.

Tsaturyan 2

As an example, "believed that the use of political power was only proper if it was done by a ruler whose personal moral character was scrupulously virtuous" (Nederman). According to Machiavelli, politics cannot be governed by a single set of moral or religious principles. This might be seen as a reflection of the diversity of Americans or merely of the American government. Machiavelli believed that everyone should have a voice in government, regardless of their religion, level of influence, or position. Under American pluralism, the way our country is run, every citizen in the United States has rights. The opportunity to vote and, in essence, have a say in governance are among these rights, for which Machiavelli advocated. According to the notes, a leader must learn to be bad in order to keep their position of authority. I interpret this to suggest that the leader needs to appear reputable and moral. Machiavelli believed that the source of power was more important than the person who possessed it. The American pluralist system makes sure that everyone has an equal chance to participate in politics. A diverse range of political thought and involvement, for instance, is permitted and even encouraged by pluralism (Longley). Machiavelli didn't care if a leader was just or wicked, or what steps needed to be taken to keep the country together. We always strive for ways to strengthen and expand the state's power in order to establish stability, which is a fact of exercising state authority. The continuation of power is Machiavelli's fundamental goal. He believed that a good leader must comprehend the nature of power. According to a pluralist, any group can gain power, and neither one person nor one group can be extremely powerful. Whatever a ruler accomplishes is a direct result of their position of authority. He is capable of using any strategy to increase his political influence. He asserted that the goal of politics is to always gain power. Politics in general is a game of power. If they think the laws will not work in their favor, individuals in American politics have the power to change the laws and form groups to do it. In conclusion, Machiavelli and Plato both held political ideals, but they did so in different ways. Machiavelli's opinions are more closely related to American pluralism than those of Plato, who adhered to one ruler, a philosopher king. This is because Machiavelli is more receptive to many perspectives when it comes to ruling. American Pluralism is a crucial aspect of American democracy because it allows people to participate in decisions made by the government without regard to who has control over them. The central issues of civilization—who should rule, how one should rule, and what goals the government should pursue—have long been contentious issues that have frequently led to conflict. On the other hand, Machiavelli's opinions demonstrate that he only desired that rulers build their own fortunes rather than rely on fate. According to Machiavelli, the two most valuable things in life are fortune and virtue.

Was this document helpful?

Plato vs Machiavelli

Course: The History of Western Political Thought (POL SCI 005)

3 Documents
Students shared 3 documents in this course
Was this document helpful?
Tsaturyan 1
Political Science 005
19 October 2022
Plato vs Machiavelli
The achievements of Plato and Machiavelli have had a profound influence on
contemporary administration. They all had different viewpoints and theories about who should
run the country, and this has influenced modern political ideologies and government operations.
Despite their divergent views on a wide range of topics, Machiavelli and Plato agreed on one
thing: the government and the people needed a supreme leader. The main questions of
civilization—who should rule, how one should rule, and what should the purpose of the state
be—have always sparked conflict and murder. One of these thinkers thought that people might
share political power, and American pluralism is a result of this belief. Examining each of their
concepts, we find that Machiavelli's views are similar to those of Americans.
Plato's beliefs are a reflection of his own life and the fact that only adult male citizens
were permitted to participate in politics in his day. Plato's political views were significantly
affected by two significant events. As an illustration, "The affluent aristocracy retained control of
the land and the government, and, over time, poorer property owners became slaves (or almost
so) through debt to the more wealthy" (Boyd). Plato thought it wasn't fair, despite coming from a
wealthy family. He started to promote the return of democracy, although it resembled a struggle
between citizens and their social class. Plato's beliefs are a reflection of his own life and the fact
that only adult male citizens were permitted to participate in politics in his day. Plato's political
views were significantly affected by two significant events. As an illustration, "The affluent
aristocracy retained control of the land and the government, and, over time, poorer property
owners became slaves (or almost so) through debt to the more wealthy" (Boyd). Plato thought it
wasn't fair, despite coming from a wealthy family. He started to promote the return of democracy,
although it resembled a struggle between citizens and their social class.
According to Plato, a philosopher king should be in charge of the populace. A wise
person or someone who loves wisdom is a philosopher king. For instance, "They would act
morally and not out of self-interest since they would recognize that the greatest self-benefit is
living virtuously" (Zaykova). This indicates that selecting thinkers to be kings is considered a
wise rule. Contrarily, Plato's ideals were more focused on maintaining the status quo, which does
not align with American Pluralism. For instance, "Pluralism is the belief that the United States is
governed by a variety of factions rather than the people as a whole. These groups, which include
environmentalists, trade and professional organizations, and unions among others... (Pluralism).
Pluralism describes the way different groups coexist and dominate in the US; no one group has
complete power. Since Plato believed that only one philosopher king should rule in order to
make wise decisions, it does not accurately reflect his ideals. According to Plato's philosophy,
moral leaders are necessary to create a good government.
Machiavelli's beliefs were harsher and more direct than those of Plato, which were more
idealistic. Machiavelli lived in Florence in the 1400s, a time when the city was under Spanish
rule. Both Machiavelli and Plato believed that a ruler should hold political authority, however
Machiavelli's perspective was different from Plato's. He advocated for a prince to be in charge.